{"id":1398,"date":"2007-05-26T01:03:31","date_gmt":"2007-05-26T05:03:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/idyllopuspress.com\/meanwhile\/?p=1398"},"modified":"2012-09-28T20:16:08","modified_gmt":"2012-09-29T00:16:08","slug":"hop-asks-what-are-they-doing-advertising-things-that-hurt-the-earth-at-a-place-thats-supposed-to-help-the-earth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idyllopuspress.com\/meanwhile\/1398\/hop-asks-what-are-they-doing-advertising-things-that-hurt-the-earth-at-a-place-thats-supposed-to-help-the-earth\/","title":{"rendered":"H.o.p. asks, &quot;What are they doing advertising things that hurt the earth at a place that&#8217;s supposed to help the earth?&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From when he was knee-high, I&#8217;ve been telling H.o.p. about ads.  What ads want from you.  What they want to sell you.  I tell him about the relationship between ads and some of the websites he visits.  Like Neopets.  I ever remind him that those sites want something from him, which is all the time and interest they can get from him, because they&#8217;re full of ads waiting for someone to take notice.  Especially with Neopets, we used to go round and round on this.  &#8220;But it&#8217;s free!&#8221;  And I&#8217;d say, yes, their games are free to you to use, but they expect to eventually sell you something.  He loves Neopets and has a Neopet that he tends to daily, taking care of it.   But I wanted him to know that their website also gets something out of his visits, that they wouldn&#8217;t be doing this if they weren&#8217;t getting something out of him visiting and taking care of his no-subscription-fee Neopet.<\/p>\n<p>So, my little nine-year-old was sitting at his computer making his CLICK charity rounds.<\/p>\n<p>I hear a gasp.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Mom!&#8221; he said.  &#8220;Why are they advertising gas at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.care2.com\/\">Care2<\/a> site?  Mom, gas hurts the earth.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We have a car.  We use gas.  But he now asks questions about gas.  And cars.  He likes transport.  He worries about gas.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Hmmm?&#8221;  I got up and stepped over to take a look.  &#8220;That&#8217;s an ad for a Suzuki XL7 SUV.  They&#8217;re giving away a $25 gas card to those who go in for a test drive.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But mom!  What are they doing  advertising things that hurt the earth at a place that&#8217;s supposed to help the earth?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Good question, H.o.p.  Does a website that exists for the purpose of aiding in protecting the environment have an ethical obligation to not promote such cars as a Suzuki XL7 SUV, which I read gets 18 mpg in town and 22 on the road, ideally and has an EPA air pollution rating of 7 on a scale of 1 to 10 where 0 is screaming, &#8220;We hate the earth and all its creatures!  We feel evil to the tips of our tippy-toes!&#8221;  I only know this because H.o.p. asked me a question and I wanted to look up the car&#8217;s environmental impact as compared to other cars, so we could talk about whether or not the owners of the website felt with these ads they were promoting a car that was less harmful than others.<\/p>\n<p>But H.o.p. isn&#8217;t even talking about car models, he&#8217;s gasping over any ads at all for gas and cars being on a website where he makes clicks for saving wetlands and rain forest, among other things.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a good question for him to ask.<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;m glad he is attentive enough to be thinking about things like this.  To see an ad come up and say, &#8220;Hey, what does this mean in relationship to the website I&#8217;m on?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He&#8217;s thinking!<\/p>\n<p>Sure, I know, I know, other kids think as well.  But I love to see my child&#8217;s brain in action this way.  That&#8217;s excellent when he&#8217;s able to look at a website he trusts and say, &#8220;Does this fit in with their mission?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>P.S.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Anyway, so how did I answer his question.  I told him I thought it was a great one.  I told him what I read about the car.  I said that Care2 promotes itself as promoting a Green lifestyle and Green products.  I said that, honestly, I couldn&#8217;t think of how this particular car and free gas cards fit into that Green mission.  Did he think it fit?<\/p>\n<p>I then went to take a look at the shoppers page at Care2, which I&#8217;d not done before.  Care2 has a broad number of &#8220;shopping partners&#8221;  that one wouldn&#8217;t think of as being eco-friendly.  Here&#8217;s what they have to say about it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why do our shopping partners include both eco-friendly and non-eco-friendly stores?<br \/>\nThis is a great question &#8211; why on earth would we include in our list of affiliate ecommerce sites companies that are not entirely eco-friendly or may even use sweat shops to produce their products? The answer is two fold:<\/p>\n<p>    * We want our members to visit their sites! Why? Because when Green Thumbs-Up users visit those sites they&#8217;ll see a Yellow or Red icon to let them know the poor social and\/or environmental policies the company has. If they weren&#8217;t in our list, most folks would probably never know. We hope the icons will educate our members so they can make an informed decision whether or not to shop there.<\/p>\n<p>    * Sometimes, for whatever reason, some of our members are still going to shop at those companies. If they&#8217;re going to do it, they might as well at least generate some donations to help heal the Earth. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;We ought to give them a call and tell them that ad doesn&#8217;t fit in with their website,&#8221; H.o.p. said.<\/p>\n<p>I told him what they have to say on their website.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re still talking.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From when he was knee-high, I&#8217;ve been telling H.o.p. about ads. What ads want from you. What they want to sell you. I tell him about the relationship between ads and some of the websites he visits. Like Neopets. 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